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[*] posted on 10.9.2008 at 19:38


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haha, pratim CAD vetj par godina, imam sejvovane sve epizode do pre par meseci :P
mogao bih da malko updateujem svoj Webcomics folder :)

does anyone need an upload ? :D


'Ocu ja upload, bas sam mislio da skinem ali ne mrzelo da sejvujem sliku po sliku.


Ne budi noob! Imas dosage (crossplatform, python) i woofy (windows, dotnet). Mislim da su oba pod GPL.

http://slipgate.za.net/dosage/
http://woofy.sourceforge.net/

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[*] posted on 10.9.2008 at 22:19


Strip je odličan, humor i priča su najjači deo, i jako je interesantno gledati kako je napredovao kao umetnik od prvih crteža koji su bili vrlo prosti (koliko mu je samo vremena trebalo da provali senčenje ^^) do ovoga što vidimo danas.

Što se tiče same animirane serije, odgledao sam prvu sezonu i delovala mi je mnogo loše. Humor kao i u stripu je bio OK, ali animacija mi je delovala vrlo nekvalitetno (grubo, kao da nema dovoljno frejmova) kao i glasovi glumaca.

Što se tiče onog iznenađujućeg događaja u priči od ove godine ne mogu da formiram mišljenje za ili protiv. S jedne strane, webcomic treba da bude duhovit, smešan, razbibriga a taj story-arc svakako to nije bio. Sa druge strane cenim to što je čovek uradio ono što je hteo sa pričom i što nije marioneta svojih čitalaca. On misli da ne možeš uvek biti neozbiljan i ako živiš tim gejmerskim životnim stilom i ne mogu reći da se ne slažem. Takođe cenim to što je uneo deo sebe u svoj rad. Ali ima jedan deo mene koji jednostavno želi da bude zabavljen, pogotovo kada čitam te stripove, i da ne ulazi u neko dublje razmišljanje (I am ashamed to say it). Jednostavno sam se na to navikao sa tim stripom koji čitam već par godina. Dok recimo kada čitam XKCD onda očekujem da ću morati makar malo da uključim ganglije da skontam foru i to mi je sasvim ok...

Sve u svemu, super strip za koji mi je neverovatno drago da sam ga otkrio, preciznije da mi ga je drug jednog letnjeg dana pokazao...




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[*] posted on 11.9.2008 at 19:47


Našao sam interesantan komentar Bena ''Yahtzee'' Crosshawas o CTRL+ALT+DEL web stripu.
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Review this week was Turok, for anyone who didn't notice. Watch it and let's all get on with our lives.

As a recent interview with me over at Gamespot and several references in previous reviews and writings may have informed you, I have a long-standing hatred of the webcomic Ctrl-Alt-Del. I thought I'd take a moment to explain it a bit better.

You see, I have this theory that the internet is causing a general mediocritisation of human culture, because you can put pretty much any piece of work on the internet and no matter how hugely it sucks dolphin jizz you'll find some dick who's prepared to tell you it's brilliant. This is the principle on which Deviantart appears to be founded.

But the cruellest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't. It gives them no incentive to improve or try new things, which a creative person must always strive to do. And it tends to foster the kind of monstrous egos the webcomic sphere grows like mushrooms in the ****-spattered dark. Tim Buckley of Ctrl-Alt-Del is notorious for having a zero tolerance for any criticism, constructive or otherwise, often deleting it unregarded from his forums, or declaring them invalid for half-baked reasons. It seems blanket praise has already done its damage to this fevered ego.

I don't hate Buckley. I look at CAD and I see a lot of misdirected potential. I know, that sounds hilarious even to me. But if you look at Buckley's art blog, you'll find that he's actually a pretty decent artist when he wants to be. But the promise of easy praise and popularity keeps him mired in his copy-pasted shoulder-hunched droopy-eyed slack-jawed magnum opus.

Not that copy-pasted art need necessarily ruin a comic - Dinosaur Comics is one of my favourite regular reads. It's the fact that for having run a gag-a-day strip for however many years, Buckley still has no idea how to structure a joke. I've never known an artist so determined to never learn anything about their craft. His usual response to this sort of thing is that he just has his own style and that there's no such thing as a 'right' or 'wrong' opinion, but the fact is, while humour is a flexible harlot, it still has rules. Rules which can be broken in the right contexts; contexts which don't include anything Tim Buckley has written.

I'm going to post a link now to a Ctrl-Alt-Del comic from July 2007. Don't let the fact that it's old excuse the mistakes; this is still very typical of Buckley's current work.

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20070718

Here's another comic, this one a Penny Arcade strip from early the same year. The subject matter and joke are the same (Puzzle Quest) but it's a fairly obvious joke to make and I can easily assume both writers came up with it independently.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/03/28

Both comics identify the humour in the situation - that the rules of a game world seem absurd when applied to the real world - but while Penny Arcade understands that the crux of a joke should be reserved for the final panel, Ctrl-Alt-Del is apparently so excited about the idea that it blurts it out right away, leaving three more panels to flounder in excessive dialogue and pointlessness.

A punchline should be equated to an actual punch in the face. That's why it's called a punch-line. You deliver it and run. You do not hang around explaining how you did the punch and that the recipient should probably be in a lot of pain now.

Identify the funny part of the idea and save it for last. Leave with the audience laughing. If you do nothing else, finish strong. That's a rule any humourist will agree with. But with the centrepoint of the gag already uselessly spent, Buckley's comic is forced to fall upon its old standby of violence as a sort of prosthetic punchline. Now, violence can certainly be funny, modern cinema was virtually built on the tradition of slapstick, but it doesn't work in static, non-animated media. There is humour to be found in shock value, but most people have been on the internet long enough to not be shocked by anything as mundane as a claymore through the sweetbreads.

But even if the joke were structured properly, there is still far too much dialogue. This is a problem common to a lot of webcomics, but since we're already in the CAD-bashing groove we'll stick with it. Shakespeare wrote that 'brevity is the soul of wit'. He did not then add 'unless you're writing a webcomic'. It applies to everything, and don't tell me you're arrogant enough to claim to know better than Shakespeare.

A gag strip has a very simple formula. Buildup. Buildup. Buildup. Punchline. Anything that does not in some way build towards the punchline can safely be removed. If any dialogue can conceivably be replaced with a gesture or facial expression (visit Perry Bible Fellowship for a crash course in this), do so; this is a comic, a predominantly visual medium, not a ****ing essay. Additionally, any dialogue pertaining to either ninjas, pirates, monkeys or Jesus should be excised, sealed in resin and buried in an undersea volcano.

This is why Ctrl-Alt-Del is a blight, and the fact that it remains crushingly popular despite making mistakes that a child would be brutally caned for on their first day at comedy school is one of the main reasons I openly weep tears for the future of human culture.

I know that an opinion can't technically be wrong and that there could be people who still like CAD for the characters or the art, but if you genuinely think that it is well-written, then you are demonstrably wrong. That's all there is to it.

Yahtzee is well aware that his own previous webcomic efforts aren't necessarily any better but reminds you that they came out of a dark time in his life from which he has determinedly moved on without a backward glance



Mogu reći da se slažem sa njim po pitanju udarne linije (zašto sam počeo da prevodim izraze?).Čovekova devojka je čak uspela da kopira stil http://www.fullyramblomatic.com/images/TrilB%5EU.jpg :).Komentari?

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[*] posted on 11.9.2008 at 19:59


Food for thought... Ali treba držati na umu da Yahtzee voli da napada stvari i da ih kritikuje, na tome je izgradio karijeru, i da često pretera (veoma slikovite hiperbole su suština njegovog humora). Desi mi se ponekad da me neka fora iz CADa ne nasmeje ili da mi deluje izlizano (kada upotrebi neki running gag) ali to je dovoljno retko da mi ne smeta. Veeeelika većina stripova mi je duhovita, neki su me nasmejali do suza...

Mada opet ne mogu da kažem da nije na mestu njegova opaska, ali nije kao da zbog toga stripovi apsolutno ne valjaju...




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[*] posted on 12.9.2008 at 12:57


E,da-sinoć smo na MSN EG clusterfuck konfererenciji pokrenuli temu o tome da počnemo da pravimo svoj EG related web comic.Ideje,predlozi?Imali smo par eksperi-mentalnih stripova koji su po meni odlični.Uglavnom,predloge za priče bi svi mogli da šalju,a crtež radi Šiva,a mogla bi i Mrakoslava.Ideje,predlozi?
Usput,evo još jednog prvoklasnog black humor fantasy web comica LOOKING FOR GROUP http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fcbazH6aE2g&feature=related i njihoov sajt http://lfgcomic.com/

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[*] posted on 12.9.2008 at 13:02


Well, glavni lik neka bude Nyarlathotep, neka se morfuje non-stop u jedan od svojih pun kurac oblika ...




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[*] posted on 12.9.2008 at 15:10


Ne smijete izostaviti moje frendove i mene iz tog stripa. Analna Družina čeka na vaš poziv...



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[*] posted on 13.9.2008 at 12:47


Lfg je brutalan strip i u planu je animirani film/serija koji takođe radi Blind Ferret studio koji radi i CAD animaciju (o kojoj sam već izneo mišljenje). Ima na Youtube-u negde kao pesma koju peva glavni akter koja promoviše taj film ili štalijeveć i sve deluje mnogo kvalitetnije odrađeno od CADa (animacija za početak deluje mnogo manje "štucavo").

I napokon da neko pomene LFG i ne kaže da je to WoW strip ^^. Idu mi na živce već ta mala glupa dečica koja igraju WoW i tripuju da se sve vrti oko njihove dragocene droge...

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[*] posted on 13.9.2008 at 13:09


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Ne smijete izostaviti moje frendove i mene iz tog stripa. Analna Družina čeka na vaš poziv...


Ono sto mene zanima L, jeste koji je tvoj nadimak u toj "analnoj" druzini?
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[*] posted on 13.9.2008 at 17:04


Ovi su mi bolji:

http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF201-Toad_Race.gif
http://www.lukesurl.com/archives/88
http://awesomepedia.org/apathy/holy-grail.php




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[*] posted on 13.9.2008 at 19:44


Treba napraviti neku kulturniju listu svega ovoga u prvom postu, tipa ime, kraci opis i link. Whos up for the challenge?





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[*] posted on 13.9.2008 at 20:05


Po mom skromnom misljenju ovo - http://www.net.hr/webcafe/matakovic/page/2004/09/08/0091006.html - je najbolji veb strip svih vremena...

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[*] posted on 13.9.2008 at 20:17


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[*] posted on 14.9.2008 at 04:56


nice work :)



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[*] posted on 14.9.2008 at 16:40


Da li sam ja jedini lik sa foruma koji gotivi The Order of the Stick ? :D
ako gotivite D&D i sve shto ide uz to, svidetje vam se i TOOTS :D

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Po mom skromnom misljenju ovo - http://www.net.hr/webcafe/matakovic/page/2004/09/08/0091006.html - je najbolji veb strip svih vremena...

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[*] posted on 14.9.2008 at 17:37


Nisam hteo pre da postujem posto je tema bila o cad. Elem da ponovim ono sto sam vec rekao

ako ste za superherojske stripove preporucujem i Hero By Night:
http://www.drunkduck.com/Hero_By_Night/

gunnerkrigg court je... ne znam kako da opisem u jednoj reci ali ima svega: teen drama, fantazija, uklapanje u novu skolu...
http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/

gone with blastwave, postapokalipticni humor
http://www.blastwavecomic.com/index.php?p=comic&nro=1
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[*] posted on 15.9.2008 at 22:44


Zekimaru, zar te nisu smorile one kareoke stranice? mene jesu...

btw, dodati Dilberta na listu web comica :). Jeste da je počeo kao newspaper comic, i da i dalje izlazi u par stotina novina širom sveta, ali izlazi i na netu u formi kao i svaki drugi web comic...




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[*] posted on 19.9.2008 at 09:41


BEHOLD! http://www.emuglx.org/emuforums/viewthread.php?tid=27483&page=1 početak je završen-next 15-20 coming right up!

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[*] posted on 19.9.2008 at 14:16


hmm, ovo bi moglo da postane sticky :)



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Po mom skromnom misljenju ovo - http://www.net.hr/webcafe/matakovic/page/2004/09/08/0091006.html - je najbolji veb strip svih vremena...


Koja ogavna skrnavština... mislio sam da imam stomak za sve ali ovo... ffs

@max, da i onako imamo premalo sticky-ja na M,M&C forumu...

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u pravu si, ali ovakav thread vredi da bude sticky. uostalom, uvek mozhe i neki drugi da se odlepi.



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[*] posted on 26.10.2008 at 17:24


Ovaj put sam pronašao dva stripa.Jedan je veoma....kritičan (nisam književnik ni orator) a drugi je deeply deeply disturbing.Proverite JACK i Better Days.



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[*] posted on 26.10.2008 at 17:47


Jason mi je ovo davno preporucio, cinimi se da ga nisam video u listi pa da preporucim.

http://www.nuklearpower.com/archive.php posto me mrzi da pricam plot evo vam ga wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8-Bit_Theater




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[*] posted on 15.11.2008 at 14:25


Data je proširena-check out who wants.



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