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[*] posted on 26.1.2010 at 13:12


Obicno oni koji najvise kukaju nemaju pojma o cemu pricaju. Samo cekaju japance da im ispishu slova pored likova i onda da mogu da prde. Mogo bih da shvatim da je igra preko godinu dana stara, ali ovako rano... ne.
Top tier bandwagon-i su uvjek postojali u svim FG igrama i nije se nista promijenilo u zadnjih 10-15 godina. Razlika je samo u tome sto ima dosta novih ljudi pa oni prave frku oko toga (i vishe nego sto bi trebalo).
Ne sjecam se da sam u zadnjih 10 godina vidio perfektno izbalansiranu igru i uvjek je bio neki top tier. Ne kazem da nije istina da je Bang top. Ali apsolutno lakshe za savladati nego top tier-i u svim drugim FG igrama sto sam igrao.

Samo se bojim da ljudi ne pojedu govno kad bude bio novi SBO, pa se tier liste eventualno promijene. Zamisli Bang padne jedan tier i onda svi ljudi na planeti dobiju blagoslov od japanaca da ne moraju da se osjecaju krivima sto igraju sa tim likom.

Rano je za tier liste sacekaj 7-8 mjeseci pa cemo onda pricat.
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[*] posted on 26.1.2010 at 14:08


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Obicno oni koji najvise kukaju nemaju pojma o cemu pricaju. Samo cekaju japance da im ispishu slova pored likova i onda da mogu da prde. Mogo bih da shvatim da je igra preko godinu dana stara, ali ovako rano... ne.


Ljudi su uzeli sebi za slobodu da uporedjuju stari i novi BB uz komentare "Promene su mizerne" ili tako neke krajnje nelogicne osnove i sa njima postavili ovakve "tier liste"


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Samo se bojim da ljudi ne pojedu govno kad bude bio novi SBO, pa se tier liste eventualno promijene. Zamisli Bang padne jedan tier i onda svi ljudi na planeti dobiju blagoslov od japanaca da ne moraju da se osjecaju krivima sto igraju sa tim likom.


Zasto mislis da ce bandwagoni uopste igrati vise sa Bangom? XD

Bice im "Oh my nekako nije za mene vise" i tako neki lame izgovori :D

Jos uvek se nadam da ce pronaci neku verziju Netcode-a za ovo pre izlaska CT , pa ce to biti ozbiljan samar ASW-u koji ce ih upozoriti da se ne zajebavaju i odugovlace izlazak CS-a za konzole kao sto sada to rade (jer izlaskom igre u Evropi sebi su dali barem 1/2 godine opustencije i zajebavanja)



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[*] posted on 26.1.2010 at 14:17


I ja mislim da je taj taunt loop smece. Bezveze su to napravili. Taunt smanjuje proration. Jedino sto sam cuo da je taj taunt loop jako, jako tesko izvesti.

Pa jes, rekao sam da je Litchi teza sa koriscenje.

Mi za te tier liste uopste ne moramo da brinemo. To se uvek vazilo samo za high level play, a sumnjam da bilo ko od nas igra tako dobro...

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[*] posted on 26.1.2010 at 16:32


Upravo to sam htio i da kazem, ove tier liste su pravljene u japanu dje 90% ljudi igra odlicno, i svako igra 2-3 sata na dan cio zivot u arkade dje ponovo dolaze svi dobri protivnici.
Da, litchi je teska za koriscenje ali to nema veze sa tier listom niti sa njenom pozicijom na istoj. Gledaju se matchup-ovi, kolichina opcija, damage itd...
Ima jos vremena da se tier liste mijenjaju.
Haseo bandwagoni su stvar prisutna odavno. Nisam mislio na to da ce da oni ostanu sa Bangom. Nego na to kako ljudi sad gledaju top tiera kao nekog Bog-a a onda kad se promijeni, onda je kao sve ok (a zapravo on je ostao isti, samo je pao radi nekog drugog lika).
Situacija je bolja nego na CT. A u odnosu na tier liste drugih tucha ova igra je za sad ok.
I ne zaboravi da japosi imaju jos u rankovima SS, SSS i jos jedno slovo. Kad je ovo zadnje slovo onda nastaje problem.
Najbitnija stvar je da razlika izmdju S,A i B, C nije velika.

Zapravo najveci problem po meni je rachel jer je suvishe losha. Mada nikad nisam ni igrao s njom tako da neznam u cemu je problem i a ne zanima me.



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[*] posted on 26.1.2010 at 17:28


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Eddy se treba postovati jeste S rank ali nije nimalo lak za igranje.

Nekako mi se čini da je u ovome poenta, primera radi odigrao sam/započeo 200-inak partija na netu i nezavisno od ranka ljudi niko nije ni pokušao da uzme imba S-rank Edija.

Ne treba se previše obazirati na tier liste, već ste naveli razloge,
čisto me zanimalo koliki je zapravo jaz izmedju medium i high ranked likova jer je to otprilike najbitnije za balans igre .

Arakune mi je skroz zanimljiv, neki ludi mix Zappe,Fausta i Edija, mislim da su generalno likovi fino dizajnirani, ima referenci sa GG-om ali ne preterano.




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[*] posted on 26.1.2010 at 18:12


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Haseo bandwagoni su stvar prisutna odavno.


Nisam znao da sam postao toliki celebrity da imam svoj bandwagon :lol:

a sad srs
naravno da postoje bandwagoni , jer sta bi radili sa ljudima koji zele samo da pobede ?
Edija niko nije birao iz prostog razloga sto je komplikovan za koriscenje , a Bang je poprilicno prost + je socno buffovan tako da em sto ima uzasno mali learning curve , em sto se odmah vide rezultati = winning kombinacija XD
Tourneyfag i bandwagoni nisu daleko jedni od drugih tbh
Mrzi me vise da pisem , jos uvek mi se prsti odmrzavaju XD




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[*] posted on 26.1.2010 at 18:47


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Eddy se treba postovati jeste S rank ali nije nimalo lak za igranje.

Nekako mi se čini da je u ovome poenta, primera radi odigrao sam/započeo 200-inak partija na netu i nezavisno od ranka ljudi niko nije ni pokušao da uzme imba S-rank Edija.



Eddy spada u teze likove za igranje, zbog negative edginga.
Cim si igrao na netu, znaci da je u pitanju GGXX Reload, a Eddy tu nije bio toliko izraziti S tier (mozda i gresim). Za nekoga ko igra igru prosecno Eddy i nije neki lik jer ga brzo ubiju. A i nema toliko spamerskih poteza (sem busilica, a recovery na njima nije bas mali)

Accent Core je druga prica. Video sam gomilu snimaka gde Eddy rapeuje samo tako (samo ukucajte ogawa na youtube-u :D). Ima gomilu unblockable setup-ova, koje cak ni najiskusniji igraci ne mogu uvek da izblokiraju, ima instant kill setup...
Ali od onoga sto sam video, mislim da je u GGu najjaci Slayer. Ima dosta freestyle combo-a, moze da se improvizuje, ima 80% combo bez koriscenja tenzije, nekoliko varijacija 100% combo-a sa tenzijom. Protiv dobrog Slayera greske nisu dozvoljene i dovoljno je da popijes jedan counter hit i sve moze da bude gotovo za 10-ak sekundi. Pored svega toga, ima lude ground mixupove...
A opet AC je jako, jako dobro izbalansirana igra i svako moze svakoga da pobedi.

Ali, kao sto je vec receno, na nas ovo uglavnom nema nikakvog uticaja. :)
Meni se Bang svidja pa se svidja, potpuno je awesome u svakom pogledu. The power of manliness FTW. :D

Sto se tice Rachel, stvarno ne znam sta se tu desilo. Ili je neko gadno zabrljao ili jos nije otkriveno nesto sto ce je izvuci. Da li su racunali na to da zbog kontrolisanja vetra moci da uradi mnogo vise ili nesto, ne znam.. Mada mi se kao character mnogo svidja, svakako cu probati sa njom.




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[*] posted on 26.1.2010 at 18:48


Dajte novi link za download please, i recite koliko je veliki rom?


Nadam se da ce biti jos ovakvih romova sa Taito Type X konzola. Ima super igara [KOF12].

[Edited on 26.1.2010 by DieH@rd]




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[*] posted on 26.1.2010 at 19:10


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[*] posted on 26.1.2010 at 20:36


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Cim si igrao na netu, znaci da je u pitanju GGXX Reload, a Eddy tu nije bio toliko izraziti S tier (mozda i gresim).


Grijesis...
Malo si zamjenio stvari: u AC je jak, a u Reload je prejak.


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[*] posted on 26.1.2010 at 23:17


Ne znam stvarno, nije mi delovao tako. Gledao sam mnogo vise Accent Core snimaka, a i mnogo bolje igram AC od Reloada...



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[*] posted on 26.1.2010 at 23:30


Uopšte nije sporan Edijev kapacitet o čemu govori i činjenica da je Isa svojevremeno recimo prešao na Edija sa Sola, dakle skroz drukčijeg lika, i da Ogawa u svom specifičnom outfitu*grin*

@M.D.K.II: i ne mogu da se nameste kontrole na tastaturi dok ne izvadim padove, ja sam odmah i probao kako si ti objasnio, ali nešto nije u redu...
edit:namestio sam, nebuloza pogrešno sam mapirao tastere:eyes:

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Radi na win7 bez problema, malo je bilo frke oko podesavanja kontrola al sve radi OK sada.



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[*] posted on 27.1.2010 at 18:51


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Sto se tice poteza i sistema:

Potezi likova: http://blazblue.jp/cs/images/special/BBCS_inst_en.pdf
Sistem igre: http://blazblue.jp/cs/images/special/BBCS_pop_en.pdf

Jedino nije naveden Jinov Yukikaze counter potez, isti je kao Hakumenov...

Hvala, ali fale Astral Heat-ovi. Gde njih naci?





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[*] posted on 27.1.2010 at 23:18


Pogledaj na http://www.dustloop.com

Ja znam da se kod Jina i Hakumena drzi dole (chargeuje), pa se istovremeno pritisne gore i drive. Kod Tsubaki je qcb->napred i C. Kod Banga je qcf x 2 + D ili C, i mora da se uradi u vazduhu. Moze da se TK-uje.
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Pitanje, da li posecujes forum odranije ili si se registrovao zbog vesti koje smo okacili na main sajt? :D Also, skokni do Newbies Welcome sekcije i predstavi se.




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Radiii! Ali fali procesora :sniff:
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[*] posted on 29.1.2010 at 13:41


Mozete svi vi da serete oko tirova i slicnih kerefeka ali cinjenica je da ce i dalje 80% ljudi odkako ima i sveta i veka igrati iste likove koje su igrali ceo zivot u svakoj igri.
Ryu i Ken i sve njihove reinkarnacije.(Ragna i Jin u BB Sol i Ky u GG)
Boli ljude kurac za tier njima su uvekl najinteresantniji likovi sa kojima mozes da izvedes kombo njakajuci dole napred i randomne dugmadice.
Tako da je cak savim mogce da ce mozda tsubaki da bude svima novi favorit.

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[*] posted on 30.1.2010 at 00:16


Moze li PS3 gamepad da se koristi sa ovim i da li u tom slucaju postoji force feedback?



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Ryu i Ken i sve njihove reinkarnacije.(Ragna i Jin u BB Sol i Ky u GG)



Jak je Ryu, jak je i Ken, al' brate Sagat je Sagat! ;];)




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[*] posted on 30.1.2010 at 09:36


reci im zemljache!

neko je pitao moze li PS3 pad sa ovim, moze, preko mappera, force feedback ne znam, ali rekao bih da ne moze sa jedno 90% sigurnosti.

Meni igra radi jako loshe sa Core2Duo @ 1.75GHz, 2GB RAM i Ati x2300. Dosta je i do mog sistema koji je u stanju raspada, ali poprilicno sam siguran da ne bih mogao da poteram u 60 FPS ni sa sredjenijom varijantom. Ali emulacija je sjajna, stvarno svaka cast, lepo bi bilo videti i josh poneku igru, kao i online podrsku. Takodje je lepo znati da opcija postoji, dobar argument za update mashine, kad se vec nema novaca za box ili PS.




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Sto se tice poteza i sistema:

Potezi likova: http://blazblue.jp/cs/images/special/BBCS_inst_en.pdf
Sistem igre: http://blazblue.jp/cs/images/special/BBCS_pop_en.pdf

Jedino nije naveden Jinov Yukikaze counter potez, isti je kao Hakumenov...

Hvala, ali fale Astral Heat-ovi. Gde njih naci?


http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps3/file/958720/57073

Inače, radi maltene savršeno. Sinoć sam nešto malo igrao, ali me nervira što na tastaturi (a mrzi me da se bakćem da kačim PS3 joypad) ne mogu istovremeno gore + desno/levo, što će reći da se po vazduhu krećem koristeći samo onaj boost. Ono malo što sam sinoć igrao mi deluje kao da nedostaje nešto dinamike koju sam toliko voleo (i i dalje volim) u GGu, mada valjalo bi da malo dublje uđem u igru. Valjda prelaz neće biti i previše bolan pa da odustanem.





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[*] posted on 30.1.2010 at 14:19


Ja mogu gore levo/desno...



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[*] posted on 30.1.2010 at 17:46


^ja očigledno imam problema sa tastaturom ili kako god, pošto nijedan složeniji potez od qcb + X ne mogu da uradim, a u GG sve radi savršeno :/ Moraću da se snađem da nakačim PS3 joypad pa da probam tako.. a taman sam počeo da kontam fazon (ekšuli, prilično je isti kao u GGu :P).




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